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creating relationships via pointers is admittedly not most discoverable process at the moment. I'm not totally clear from your question what you're shooting for, but happy to chat on #irc, I'll be on most of the next couple days.

  --Lewis Hoffman.....Thu Dec 31 08:47:49 -0800 2009

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I don't know if it's 'better', but there is also the wagneer mailing list.

 

I will also be online more now that i am done driving x-country.

  --John Abbe.....Thu Dec 31 17:56:04 -0800 2009