handle time and layout in Dates

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Date cards are anemic. Eventually we want Wagn to understand time in a fairly deep way, which could be a Big Design thing, but small steps would answer some immediate needs, and help us think better about later major expansion.

Blogging needs would be handled with:

Date cards specifying time as well as date (wouldn't even need to be able to edit it, as blogging would only make use of this via exposed +*create and +*update cards)
Flexibility in how much, and what layout of the Date's information to display (optional for blogging if a decent default is selected, but it would mess up other uses a lot of uses of Date to always show the time)

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Update the editor to something that handles times, while remaining simple if all you care about is day.

Store the time/date in some standard way that allows going at least ~100+ years in the past (handling all living people's birth dates), and well into the future.

Conveniently, we have a formatting system, so let's expose the chunks in cards and use that!

Date+*year = 2010, 2011, ... (Number)
Date+*month = January, February ... (Phrase, and optionally via setting: Jan, Feb, ...)
Date+*day =1, 2, 3, ... (Number, or Phrase and optionally via setting: 01, 02, ...)
Date+*dayname = Monday, Tuesday, ... (Phrase, and optionally via setting: Mon, Tue, ...)
Date+*hour = 12, 1, 2, ..., 11 (Phrase and optionally via setting: 0, 1, ..., 23)
Date+*ampm = AM, PM (wish we had calculation cards to mess with case on these; could do a setting :-P )
Date+*minute = 01, 02, ..., 59
Date+*second = 01, 02, ..., 59

In English, something like:

Date+*display:

...resulting in: Monday, May 10, 1:49 PM 2010

Note that if it's Basic, Wagn should treat it like a form (i.e., show the markup even when viewing as content/open/closed). If it's a Pointer, Wagn should treat cards in the Pointer like they're forms.

Well that was easier than i thought. An additional bit we'll probably want at some point is to store everything as numbers, and use some Date-chunk specific views (maybe when these are Wagneerable) to show them as Mon, Tue; 01, 02; etc.

Lots of good stuff.

What is *display? Is it not a setting? Wouldn't we want a way to change the default display of a date card?

When I get to it I'll probably delete that card and either just spell it out in the solution or put it on a different wagn. I don't think we want star cards on wagn.org that don't actually have a meaning yet.

--Ethan McCutchen.....Mon May 10 14:33:00 -0700 2010

Hunh, had been thinking of it as just Wagneering, but we don't want to force people to include everywhere. So yeah, i guess it's a setting, for a Basic card that's treated like a format for the date (or if a Pointer, the card pointed to is such a card).

--John Abbe.....Mon May 10 15:10:16 -0700 2010

Hunh, had been thinking of it as just Wagneering, but we don't want to force people to include everywhere. So yeah, i guess it's a setting, for a Basic card that's the Date format; or if a Pointer, the card pointed to is such a card. (Switched from PlainText so that people can use bold, italic.)

--John Abbe.....Mon May 10 15:14:46 -0700 2010