Renaming a search card is renaming my Plus cards
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If I rename the Soundtrack search card, all my +Soundtrack cards get renamed also!! They disappear from the Episodes they're attached to! If I deleted it would it delete them too? I wanted to make a card that would aggregate all the +Soundtrack cards attached to each Episode into a single list. But you can't configure the view of a search card, so I was going to change the name of the search card and then make a new card that would display the search as Titled to see if that was what I wanted. But instead I nearly lost all the Soundtrack cards.
That sort of renaming is supposed to be a feature of Wagn - so that you could rename all of the cards "Episode 1+Soundtrack" "Episode 2+Soundtrack", etc. to "Episode 1+musical tracks" "Episode 2+musical tracks", etc. you could do so just by renaming "Soundtrack" to "musical tracks". But I can imagine that it was surprising! :-)
As it turns out, you can configure the view of a search card, with "view" like this:
{"type": "User",
"view": "titled"
}
This will show all of the User cards one after the other, each of them in titled view.
But that means that I can never change the name of this card if I want to. Can I safely delete it if I want to change what it's called?
If you delete it, it will delete all its plus cards. You can't have A+B (eg Episode 1+Soundtrack) without both A and B (Episode 1 and Soundtrack). Deleting the parts will delete the whole.
You can, however, change its type and content without affecting the plus cards. So, perhaps you should just make it a blank Basic card?
Ugh. Too bad I didn't see this 30 seconds ago. Managed to delete more content. Again. Clearly the Plus thing does not work the way I think it should.
I'm not sure how to wrap my head around this to keep from causing myself problems. Because this means that I can't have a section (section being a plus card for granular linking purposes) in one card that's called the same thing as a whole card somewhere else. But it's entirely likely that I will want to do that.
have a look at renaming, compound names, and deleting. If those don't leave you feeling clearer about how things work, then I'll try to update them.
there's no reason you can't do that. but if you use one name in multiple contexts, you have to be careful when renaming / deleting.
Wagn actually tells you when there will be consequences of renaming / deleting. Make sure you pay attention to those messages.
Okay, "If we were to create Joe's Coffee+location and Joe's Coffee+menu, they would both share the same left part (Joe's Coffee) with our original card, Joe's Coffee+hours. By the same token, if we created a card named The Bumpy Grind+hours, it would share its right part (hours)." This is weird.
What does "sharing the right part" mean? Because it doesn't mean including the contents of one +hours card in both places. But it sounds like it should. Yet I know from experience that it doesn't. Because the thing I've made isn't "+hours" with one piece of data, it's "Joe's Coffee+hours" (unique data 1) and "The Bumpy Grind+hours" (unique data 2), which is why "Hours" (unique data 3) having any effect on either of those other three is shocking. It looks like all Plus cards have an empty blank master card sitting around?
You're right that it's "weird" in the sense of unusual, but once you get what's going on, you may agree that this is a core innovation that's a big part of what makes wagn special. In fact, you're exploring the idea that inspired pretty much everything else that we've done.
Perhaps it will help to step back and think of Wagn as a tool for defining what terms (names) mean. A simple card (one without a "+") defines the name. A plus card defines a relationship between those names.
Joe's Coffee+hours defines a relationship between Joe's Coffee and hours.
I see why you'd say it's shocking that the "hours" card has anything to do with Joe's Coffee+hours, but if you think about it, *of course* the meaning of the word "hours" has a lot to do with the meaning of the English phrase "The hours when Joe's Coffee is open" or the Wagn phrase "Joe's Coffee+hours".
That same card ("hours") is used to hold your configuration about what any X+hours field means -- its type / default value, its permissions, etc. Any time you're configuring that field, you are essentially defining that term. If you rename the term, then all the configuration goes with it!
Now, that's not to say the content of the "hours" card itself has to affect those other cards; it doesn't. But you are defining the same word, so renaming or deleting it will have a major affect.
It is just the names that are involved here. That means when you rename a part of a cardname, it changes all the cards that use that part. When I create a card A+B+C+D, all the parts have to exist, so it creates them, typically as empty Basic cards. If you wanted to separate Soundtrack from the cards it is a part of, then just create a new card with the new name and move the content (and type). You can then remove the content from the original card, but deleting it would delete the cards it is part of.
Yes, this can be a little confusing, but this feature of Wagn renaming is an important and powerful one. Good to understand a bit how it works in becoming a Wagneer.